i know as of late downriggers have not been producing for most people on lake erie. Generally speaking I use slide divers in the spring when fish are above 40 feet and once the fish go below 40 feet I switch over to Dipsy divers. I experimented for a period in time using Dipsey Divers, Jet Divers, and leadcore on local inland lakes and the Lower Allegheny. a dipsy does a circle patten under the water. dipsys release and do not cause much resistance when fighting the fish because then they run flat not at and angle which would increase resistance. Line counter level wind reels are used with dipsy divers. Re: Jet Divers and Dipsy Divers in smaller lakes 2016/11/05 06:45:01 I don't use redneck trolling weights, only referenced the chart. If we don't get a fish at least every 15 minutes, we'll start cycling threw all the gear and clear all the draggers. Choosing and anchor system for your fishing kayak, ← Scotty Depthmaster Display Packed with Rod Holder Manual Downrigger, Luhr Jensen Jet Diver, Clear, 3 1/2-Inch →, KastKing Pontus Spinning Reel (Pontus, Pontus 4000), Shimano Spirex RG Spinning Reel (6.2:1) Reviews. Details Luhr Jensen Jet Divers feature a unique, buoyant design that collects water pressure against its wings to dive; yet when pressure is relaxed, the Jet Diver will float off of structure. The number 1 tension screw should be adjusted to ensure that the release pin is held in place during trolling. Make sure you use barrel swivels to prevent line twisting. FIND YOUR NEXT FISHING BOAT/SELL YOUR BOAT FAST, If this is your first visit, be sure to
The number 2 tension screw holds the base plate into position but still allows easy rotations for new settings. Jet Divers!!!!! Med. Size Dipsy (0) 7' 14' 19' 23' 28' 3 setting (Furthest side planing setting) Large Size Dipsy (1) 18' 32' 44' 53' 60' 0 setting (no side planing) Large Size Dipsy (1) 14' 24' 32' 40' 45' 3 setting (Furthest side planing setting) Luhr Jensen Jet Diver. I've got 10 Jets and 4 Dipseys,but can't see spending a $160 for the same problem... i'd get a few if i knew someone that used them! Short on funds - go dipsey, got the cash - go downrigger. Can't wait to experiment more this weekend. Redneck trolling weights has a chart online for snap weights. Archery, This is the method most of the tournament guys run. Quote from: Walleyeking125 on Aug 18, 2005, 12:39 PM, Quote from: hunter13 on Aug 18, 2005, 10:06 PM, http://www.luhrjensen.com/prod_list.cfm?categoryID=12, http://www.cabelas.C0M/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0013620016340a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=lake+ranger&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=lake+ranger&noImage=0, SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2020, SimplePortal. They can go down to a maximum depth of 50 feet. VISIT the Walleye Tackle Store. A lot of guys pour and sell lead jigs/lures using those Do-It Molds. I've caught walleyes at mosquito and stripers at Shenango using them but have lost too many doing so. Jet divers are a great value for money, they should last for years and for a minimal investment they eliminate the need for costly downriggers. I just recently put on some lead core to two trolling rods, hoping they might have a little less chance of hanging up. They offer an excellent option to downriggers and allow you to venture out for deep water trolling. Trolling allows you to use the shortest amount of time to cover the greatest distance. These are a bit cheaper than losing dipseys, but don't have the control/charts that Dipseys have. By lv2htgeese in forum Western Lake Erie Fishing REPORTS, By Bob in forum Western Lake Erie Fishing REPORTS, By lineman49 in forum Fishing Techniques Discussion (jigging, drifting, trolling), By Lyman1 in forum Western Lake Erie Fishing REPORTS, By fishydude in forum Fishing Techniques Discussion (jigging, drifting, trolling), Weekly Lake Erie Fishing Report from ODNR, Weekly Steelhead Fishing report from ODNR. Your email address will not be published. Or 3-way rigs, can never go wrong with them, drifting or trolling. Although experiment enough, and you will probably work out a formula. That just about covers what you need to know about fishing with the jet divers and dipsy divers. The dipsy can be set to explore pre-determined depths and this makes it possible to cover a wide area of water and many layers depth-wise. I've used both on Shenango and Mosquito lakes. The jet Diver is among the most sought after diver systems for precision depth control. By nippissinger in forum Eastern Lake Erie Fishing REPORTS Replies: 6 Last Post: 08-01-2011, 05:51 PM. that is why if the dipsy is popped before it is out it, it will float, no resistance. Find a nice flat area that you are familiar with (road bed, ect) and get your offering down to where it is just ticking. Dipsys= away from the boat trolling, considerably cheap, ect. What do you think? I'm not sold on my book either. If the lure should dive to 12-14’ at a set speed/line out, will it be running that far below the divers that are pulling it ? Its all good! Usually takes about 4-5# of pressure to trip mine and then that's a lot of lead between you and the fish too. They are designed to dive to deep depths without leadcore or down riggers. I have developed my own dive charts for these devices using a TD fishhawk. Torpedo divers. Thanks guys for all the input. I do like that the Jets float at rest. AWESOME!!! For lake trout and walleye, the ideal speed is between 2.0 and 2.5 miles per hour. What do you think? Even worse is snagging with 30lb braid, and neither wanting to give... Like said, the inland reservoirs have so many depth changes, the snags are brutal. Commission on sales or owner is what i was thinking too. Dipsy's being weighted sink if you slow down or stop or turn to fast and can snag bottom. The problem that everybody i fish with seems to have is not with the big fish,you know when they're on,but the small walleye and white perch....draggers! Re: Dipsy diver or Downrigger? Why doesn't a pro staffer hand out a few samples so we can do a little field testing....lol. With a thumb on the spool, slowly release it and ensure that line is kept tight to the dipsy; doing this will prevent it from becoming tangled. The 50' ones are crazy expensive ($90), but the others are usually under $20. Wire cant kink going through you guides. Downriggers would be better, but you'd need some light releases and need to monitor the depth constantly so the balls don't get stuck on structure. Better off using leadcore. They require dedicated trolling combos though, which fortunately, I had. And we hope you find our How to use Jet Divers and Dipsy Divers post useful. By Lyman1 in forum Western Lake Erie Fishing REPORTS Replies: 1 Last Post: 03-09-2012, 05:13 AM. The #40 dives to 40 ft. Had the same problem with the mini dipsys but you can solve that by tunning them outward more. Trolling in ‘S’ and zig-zag patterns between two points will effect changes in both the depth and speed of the dipsy and the trailing lure. I know lots of guys run this kind of program with spinners on the inland lakes in the midwest and do very well. Every size Jet Diver is calibrated to operate at a particular level. Ok, so thinking of taking one my older level wind reels and converting it to a lead core set-up. Keep a log book (or note pad on your phone) so you can remember how much line worked for you. This is important because to reach those depths you will have to be able to count out your line. right now the hotspot is from 40 to 60 feet down so the dipsys are hitting the perfect depth for suspended eyes. The snap is attached to your leader, behind the dipsy diver. The 40's are $10.00. The least impactful trolling path that can be taken after locating the fish is running a straight line. Believe me, I've seen what's happened to friends' boats if they snag a ball on the bottom while trolling, and it's not pretty, or cheap. You'll get tired of losing them to snags. I'm fishing 18-25 ft. and I think I need the #10 Jets, because the 20s were hitting bottom more than I like. Copyright © 2020 OMJ Outdoors. They can go down to a maximum depth of 50 feet. If you are looking to use dipsy divers, I suggest using 20 lb. Jets float, so you can stop your troll let them float up a bit then start trolling again to get a reaction bite. Use swivel to connect it to the fluro leader or some type of knot directly between the two? stainless steel 7 strand wire by the Malin company. Dipsys dont move? The buoyancy of Jet Divers allows the body to float at rest. I was wondering if I should by a downrigger or just get a couple dipsy divers???. Most serious open water trollers use both, and often at the same time. Location: Erie, PA, United States of America. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. June 04 has my Jet article. The rods used with these divers are between 9 and 10 feet. Below is an outline of the rods, reels and fishing line that can be used with the dipsy diver: Okuma Classic GLT (10 Foot) Hope you weren't using braid. 3 way rigs are very commonly used on Niagara river drifting. Downriggers = Less line out, fighting only the fish, percision depth control. However, divers like Jet Divers and Dipsy Divers will allow you to get down there and do some deep water trolling. Tru-trip jet divers vs. Dipsy diver. I use a red off shore clip with an inline trolling weight attached. If you are not using Downriggers w/sliders or stackers, Dipsys, and Outboard Planers you are cheating yourself out of lines and the water column. Please tell me what your opinion, not to rob the thread but what is a dipsy diver and are they hard to figure out i troll with lead core line and by late summer cant reach the fish as well with just leadcore so maybe i should check out them dipsy divers if they are easy to run lol. For spoons I like using the jet divers (20's or 30's) behind an off-shore in-line board because 1) they are pretty simple devices e.g. If the rule is 5 fish or 5 pounds, what if the 5th fish weighs 5 pounds? I have experimented with clip on trolling weights too. Some days fish are picky and want down riggers and other days, the are slamming the dipsys. All Rights Reserved. When a dodger is being used, allow a minimum of 48 inches of leader between the lure and the drive. Trolling is arguably the most efficient method of fishing and this is especially true when you are fishing in unknown waters or big bodies of water. An Improved Albright knot can be used to attach the 30 pound PowerPro to the 30 pound backing. if you use fireline with the dipsys they will run at a deeper depth than mono. So, the 8-inch snubber from Luhr-Jensen can be used to ease some of the stress whenever your lure is hit by a fish. 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